Umbilical Cord Stem Cell
Donations for Cancer Patients
Cancer Newsline Audio Podcast Series
Date: July 27, 2009
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Lisa Garvin:
Welcome
to Cancer Newsline, a weekly podcast
series from the
Elizabeth Shpall,
M.D.:
Welcome,
thank you. Thank you for having me.
Garvin:
Today
we're going to be talking about cord blood which has become an important source
for transplant material at M.D. Anderson and hospitals around the world. First
of all Dr. Shpall, tell us where is cord blood derived?
Elizabet Shpall, M.D.:
So cord
blood is derived from the placenta of infants that are being born. It's the
sack that surrounds the baby in the mother's uterus that has lots of blood
vessels in it and feeds the baby through the nine months of pregnancy. And when
the baby is born, the placenta is delivered and in that placenta are veins that
are full of stem cells. We simply stick a needle into that placenta after the
baby is safely born and out of the mother's uterus. We can either stick a needle
into the placenta while the uterus still has the placenta in it or we deliver
the placenta into a bucket and can collect the blood that way. But we simply
stick a needle and drain about a milk bottle full of blood which is extremely
rich in the stem cells that we need for transplantation. We take that blood in
standard blood bags to the laboratory here at M.D. Anderson where we freeze it
and have it for future use for stem cell transplantations. Before we freeze it,
we take out samples for infection, for an HLA typing which is the typing on
everyone's cells that we have to match when we do a transplant. So we take out
samples for lots of different tests including infectious disease testing and
typing of the HLA which is the human leukocyte antigen which everyone has on
their surface of their cells. And it is that HLA that we must match when we do
a transplant. Once the cord is frozen, all of that information is gathered. All
of the results are gathered and put into a big database, and if the cord meets
the specifications that are acceptable for transplantation that have to do with
a large enough size, lack of any infection, and all of the appropriate testing
shows normal results, then that cord is put into a registry. And with all of
the information associated with it and when a patient needs a transplant, they
actually submit their HLA type to the registry and if the cord matches that HLA
type, it comes up in a report that goes to the transplant doctors. And the
transplant doctors then know that they can have that cord for transplantation
if the patient needs it.
Garvin:
So M.D.
Anderson does have a cord blood bank and it's one of the few in the country
right now, is that correct?
Shpall:
Right,
well there are about probably 30 cord blood banks in the
Garvin:
Wow.
Shpall:
And these
were for the most part patients either here at M.D. Anderson or in
Lisa Garvin:
Are there
still challenges to you know collecting cord blood? Probably it's something
that maybe mothers need to be educated about that it's safe for them and safe
for their new baby. But also too I wonder if the stigma of stem cells is still
kind of affecting cord blood donations?
Shpall:
Very good
question! The answer is yes. We are collecting cord blood now at 5 different
hospitals in
Garvin:
In just a very short time. That's great.
Shpall:
Yes, yes,
yes.
Garvin:
And all
it is -- tell us about the process of donating the cord blood. I guess they
have to sign consent forms and so forth. Kind of walk us through what a mother
would do.
Shpall:
Sure. So
the mother has to be at least 34 weeks gestation - delivering at 34 weeks or
beyond - to be eligible to donate. She is given a brochure and a consent form
which describes the fact that the cord will be collected, that her blood and
her baby's blood will be tested for a number of infectious diseases including
HIV, that we will look in her chart to make sure that there is no medical
contraindication to collecting the cord. And all of those things she has to
agree with up front which as I said they typically do. They sign the consent
form, understand completely how the process will take place and then we wait.
And when she goes into labor and the baby is born, we have collectors at all of
our hospitals. And so either the collection can be done in utero
as I said. The baby is born. The placenta is still in the uterus. And the
obstetrician with the help of our team sterilizes the cord and sticks a little
needle in and drains the blood. Or the placenta is delivered into a bucket. We
have a room on each of the hospital units where we are collecting. And in that
room they hang the placenta up on a stand and again stick a needle and drain a
milk bottle full of blood into a blood bag. It's all labeled and bar coded and
then we store it for several hours and have delivery people come and pick up
the cords and bring them to M.D. Anderson where they are checked in, processed,
the sample's taken for all of the testing that needs to be done, and then they
are frozen. We need to have the cord bloods frozen within 48 hours of
collection in order to make it to the bank to be clinically useable because we
know beyond that, they're not as good.
Garvin:
Let's
walk through what stem cells do. I think in a nutshell I can say - not being
the expert - that stem cells are like very early
developmental cells that really can be anything. I mean we start with stem
cells and then differentiate and become different organs.
Shpall:
Right so
what we use for our patients are hematopoietic stem
cells: are bone marrow derived stem cells. And what these particular stem cells
do is the major functions of these stem cells are to make platelets to keep
patients from bleeding, to make white cells to keep one from getting infected
or to fight infection, and red cells to carry oxygen. So we have many patients
who have diseased marrows either from cancer, you know leukemia, lymphoma or
from hematologic diseases, inborn in metabolism, or
even more recently sickle cell. And with diseased marrow the patients won't
live very long or very healthfully. So for many of these diseases, the
treatment of choice is a stem cell transplant. And what that means is that the
patients get -- come into the hospital and they get treated with chemotherapy
or a chemo radiation program that will kill the diseased marrow. And then we
infuse a healthy marrow product from proliferate blood or a bone marrow or a
cord blood. And those healthy cells know where to go and they hone into the
bones and begin to grow. And in a matter of 2 to 4 weeks, they begin to produce
the white cells to fight infection, the red cells to carry oxygen and the
platelets to keep the patient from bleeding. During that timeframe, before the
stem cells take, the patients are in very protected
rooms with you know filtration to keep out infection. They're on a lot of
antibiotics. They're getting blood and platelet transfusions. And it's that
time period that is the most fraught with complications in terms of getting the
stem cells to work. But once they start working and functioning, then the
patients are much less likely to be infected and much less likely to need
transfusions. So the first major obstacle to therapy with stem cell
transplantation is overcome. As a stem cell transplant physician, the first
choice for a donor for our patients with marrow diseases is a family member.
And we have to match the donor with the patient in terms of what we call the
HLA: human leukocyte antigens. Those are makers that everybody has on their
cells. You get half from mom: half from dad. And what we like is to have a
perfect match in 10 of 10 or actually 14 out of 14 of those markers: 7 from
mom, 7 from dad. The perfect match is the safest and best transplant.
Unfortunately, patients only have a 1 in 4 chance of having a family member who
will be a perfect match for them. And so 3 out of 4 patients will not have a
match and therefore over the past 2 decades we have increasingly been using
unrelated donors.
Garvin:
Or matched unrelated donors. Also called MUD.
Shpall:
Matched
unrelated right, matched unrelated donors called MUD. We have the National
Marrow Donor Program Registry. We have 7 million donors and these are matched,
unrelated donors that provide the stem cells to our patients. If a patient is
Caucasian of Western European origin, then they can often find a donor in the
registry. However, if you are a patient from an ethnic minority be it
African-American, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, we often never find donors in the
registry for a number of reasons. The minorities appear to be underrepresented
in the registry. In addition - particularly for the African-American population
- the HLA typing is more heterogenous. It's a more
complicated gene pool. It's harder to match. And so for these reasons, cord
blood has exploded on the scene as a marvelous alternative for stem cell
transplantation to patients who don't have a donor in the registry. Why is
that? Number 1: because the cord blood is a more naive cell. It's a younger
cell. And it has much fewer -- it's a smaller stem cell graph and it has fewer
T-cells in it. It appears to cause less complications - the major complication
being graft-versus-host disease - even though it can be used in a more
mismatched situation. So where we routinely want to have a perfect match - a 10 out of 10 or a 6 out of 6 of the basic matches for
marrow and blood - we are routinely using a 4 out of 6 match in cord. The vast
majority of patients transplanted in the world to date - more than 15 thousand
- have had 4 out of 6 matches and they appear to produce you know comparable
results with maybe even less graft-versus-host disease than a completely
matched marrow. So that is one reason why the inventory of cord blood in the
world is much smaller than prolifera blood, but we're
still allowed -- we're still able to find the donors because you just don't
have to have as many to find a 4 out of 6 match.
Garvin:
Do you
think that other countries could step up to the plate and maybe there'd be like
a global cord blood awareness program? It sounds like that if you did that the
resources would be almost limitless.
Shpall:
Well, it
is already happened. In fact, cord blood is a global industry. The biggest cord
banks in the world outside
Garvin:
Now has
the pendulum swung from bone marrow to cord blood? I mean what is the
percentage being done cord blood versus bone marrow transplants?
Shpall:
Our first
choice for transplant is still always a 10 out of 10 matched, unrelated donor.
Those are being done more frequently than cord blood. But for patients who
don't have that perfect 10 out of 10 or who don't have time for example
patients with acute leukemia, often need a very quick transplant because
they're only going to be in remission for a few weeks. And in that setting it
takes longer to get a donor than it takes to get a cord blood which is frozen
and can be shipped overnight. So the number of cords is definitely increasing
going up every year - but it hasn't surpassed the unrelated donors. And you
know, it probably never will but it is providing an increasing number of
transplants and making more patients able to get a transplant than ever before.
Garvin:
And
faster too!
Shpall:
And
faster! Definitely faster!
Garvin:
Well
great. Thank you very much. Do you have any final thoughts you'd like to leave
with the audience before we go?
Shpall:
I think
it's an exciting time to be in stem cell transplantation. Cord blood has
allowed us to treat patients, particularly those minority patients who have no
other options and we didn't have time to talk much today about what we're doing
in the laboratory to make cord blood safer, but it does take longer to engraft,
to recover, to take than a bone marrow, and as I told you, those during that
period there's an increased risk of infection and bleeding. And so we have
major projects in our laboratory trying to grow the cords ex-vivo - outside the
body, in the laboratory for 2 weeks and then infusing them. And we're seeing very
exciting results with more rapid engraftment in the patients who get these
expanded cord blood units compared to the old days when we were not able to do
that. And so that is very gratifying to see that we can -- even though it's not
perfect, we're getting better and better at making it safer for the patients.
Garvin:
Great,
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